Are you a HyperNation Ponzi Scheme Victim, Contemplating Suicide? Understanding & Preventing Suicide

Transcribed using Descript

DANNY : DE HEK: Are you a Ponzi scheme victim? Are you contemplating suicide? That question has proven to be a lifesaver. If you have a friend or a family member who may be isolated, who you know that is involved in crypto opportunities, the best question you could ask them right now with all the doom and gloom that's going on in the crypto.

DANNY : DE HEK: Is, are you contemplating suicide? What do you do if somebody comes back and says, Yes, I am today's Tube Cast and podcast. I have a guest speaker by the name of Michael Hemps Seed, and he talks about his experience in helping people who have mental illness. He's an author of a book called Being a True Hero, Understanding and Preventing Suicide in our Community.

DANNY : DE HEK: He's also a 10 x speaker and he's willing to help people over Zoom who reach out to him, and he will give you some practical advice that you may be able to give to a friend or reach out to him if you do have those thoughts. He's willing to help. There's so many pyramid schemes, multi-level marketing opportunities, Ponzi schemes, and online scam.

DANNY : DE HEK: Going around at the moment and people around the globe are getting scammed out of billions of dollars. Have you ever thought about where that money is actually coming from? The demographics of people that are being scammed is actually 50 and above going by my research. They get involved in these Zoom meetings.

DANNY : DE HEK: They listen to people's stories who are investing hundreds of thousands of dollars. And telling people how wonderful it is and how they're getting their return on their investment. They're preaching a message of doom and gloom, telling people that pensions are not safe. I have personally interviewed two people that have taken all of their pension funds out and put it into HyperVerse being told that within 600 days they're going to get three times their.

DANNY : DE HEK: When I first started doing these videos exposing Ponzi schemes, I thought people were greedy. I thought, Did you really think that people were gonna get three or four times their return on their investment in such a short period of time? But when I interviewed these people that were about to retire and they tell me their stories, I realized that.

DANNY : DE HEK: Had been fooled. If so, if you are a victim, don't feel that you were silly. A lot of people will not talk to me about their losing their them losing their investment. In fact, they clamber, they keep it to themselves. They isolate themselves. Often they're widowed or widowers, and they've literally lost their life savings.

DANNY : DE HEK: They are home alone. And that's why we need to, as a community, reach out to these people and maybe ask them that very question, Are you contemplating suicide? I have asked multiple people that question, and it has always turned out for the better. No one has ever told me off for asking such a personal question.

DANNY : DE HEK: I've had two people in my immediate family commit. I was part of a religious cult. I was Asia Hoover's witness. My stepfather when I was nine years of age, took his own life and my sister, who was two years older than me, took her own life on the same day that my stepfather took his own life at the same age many years later, they couldn't live up to the expectations that the Jehovah's Witness Organization put on.

DANNY : DE HEK: I have had suicidal thoughts. These crypto opportunities often wrap around you, a community. The community are there. They're often the ones taking your money and they're trying to wrap you around a community saying that it's caring and they really care about you. But when you start questioning the.

DANNY : DE HEK: Where's my money? How do I get my money out? They throw you out of the communities just like they did when I was involved in the religious cult. So don't think that you were stupid. Don't think that you didn't know what you were thinking, and you can't understand how you made such a decision to take out your money and invest it in a get rich.

DANNY : DE HEK: Opportunity. The guys and the girls that are in these Zoom meetings are trained professionals. Many of them have NLP training, and a lot of them have been multi-level marketers for many years. They know how to overcome those obstacles and those people that are negative, like they say I am, so there is help out there.

DANNY : DE HEK: There. A future out there, even if you've lost all your money to a Ponzi scheme. Money is not the key to happiness. In fact, it's just about the love of money is the root of all evilness. Michael Hessey, as I said, is a good friend of mine. He's wrote a book. I'm not trying to push his book. We will have links to his website.

DANNY : DE HEK: You can go there and read some chapters of his books, but more importantly, he gets the juices flowing. He's talking about yes, the elephant in the room, and we all should be talking about the elephant in the room. Let's not ignore. That these bands have come out here and coerced people into a doom and gloo message and convince people to put their life savings into a get rich quick crypto opportunity.

DANNY : DE HEK: And then just push those people to the side. And then often you'll see the same people when one Ponzi scheme falls. There was a Ponzi scheme called stable fund.app, and that has just frozen everyone's withdrawals, and now they say that they are going to give one times return for everyone that's invested, and they're also starting up a new platform version to where people can use their.

DANNY : DE HEK: Dead money to go into the new Ponzi scheme. Same has happened with HyperVerse. Right now, HyperVerse, they tell us their own statistics that 1.6 million people had signed up for HyperVerse. That means that the minimum investment was $300 or 300 U S D T, which makes. On the minimum, a $4 billion scam. People at the top made a whole lot of money, and these are the ones that you may have seen in the Zoom meetings coaching you to put your life savings in there, preaching a message that it's doom and gloom in the world and that your only savior is to take out.

DANNY : DE HEK: Safe Ponzi money in your retirement fund and put it into a Ponzi scheme. It's terrible. These guys are now starting off promoting other Ponzi schemes. It's rampant out there. There's a real scam demo. I really need your support. I need to hit the thumbs up, share these videos, comment on these videos, and subscribe to my YouTube channel.

DANNY : DE HEK: Hit the bell and you'll be notified when new videos come out. Hopefully next week, I'll have an article in the New York. I've been interviewed four times by the New York Times, and the article should be coming out next week, which I'm really excited about. It talks about the parallels of religion and Ponzi schemes and also my journey as a dyslexic person.

DANNY : DE HEK: Now why? What is the parallel? I've noticed that a lot of people believe in the blockchain. They believe in the technology, they, they trust in crypto that is practically the same. As saying to people they believe in the Bible and the truths that the elders from the church preach, very similar parallels.

DANNY : DE HEK: Then what underneath that is the communities, the brotherhood, and often they merged in the two together. In your head, if you're a religious person, which is the ones they target you can see there's being part of a community. I personally know what it was like to be kicked out of the Jehovah's Witness.

DANNY : DE HEK: Faith at the time. I'm glad now, but it took me years to actually form my own community of friends and family, and I value that so much today. Very similar. The demographics of people that they're targeting in these Ponzi schemes are people who are about to retire, people that are being widows or I've forgotten the you know, lost their loved ones, living home alone, lonely people, and they've enjoyed being part of the community.

DANNY : DE HEK: Now, these same people, Have found out they've lost their money and they've been kicked out of the community. I can appreciate what that does to us. And that's why I've asked Michael Hessey to come on to my Tube cast or my podcast and talk about some practical things that we can do to help mental illness.

DANNY : DE HEK: It's nothing to be ashamed of what's happened to you, but the future is bright. So let's listen to what Michael has to offer. And let's see what we can gleam from his words of wisdom. All Michael's contact details will be in the description below. And remember, Michael is willing to talk to you over Zoom if you want to reach out to him.

DANNY : DE HEK: Good morning. Welcome along. This is the Danny De Heck YouTube. What's Ucast Tube cast? I forget. It's a podcast. It's everything. It's my YouTube channel. Do what you like. So they tell me, Hey, today I've got a valued guest with me, Michael Hessey. I've known Michael for quite a few years now, and I think you're actually responsible for actually getting me into podcasting.

DANNY : DE HEK: Did you know that?

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: I didn't know that. That's something interesting. Yep. So that all the family out there, I'm sorry, it's my fault.

DANNY : DE HEK: Yes, it is. The radio the, the Lighthouse

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: was that Lighthouse Hope? Yes. It was a radio show I had for a while.

DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah. That was awesome. And you asked me to come along as a, a speaker and I've got to know you quite, Oh, we must have known each other at least for about 10 years maybe.

DANNY : DE HEK: Are we getting there? That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. So why I asked Michael to come on to my YouTube channel and discuss things what do you specialize in, Michael?

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: So I'm the director of a specialist mental health service called Frontiers of Hope, and one of my key things that I'm particularly interested and passionate about is suicide prevention.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: I wrote a book on prevention called Being a true Hero, Understanding and Preventing Suicide in your Community. And it's been quite widely used throughout New Zealand, say New Zealand police have used it, New Zealand aed. So I'm very passionate about suicide.

DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah, and you've given me some tips that I've actually employed quite a few times, and to my surprise the response that I've had is just exactly in line with the research that you said.

DANNY : DE HEK: The one I will share is if you are talking to somebody and you think that this guy's not, well, this lady's not the right frame of mind, you ask them point blank, Are you contemplating suicide? Which seems like a really personal questions, but to my surprise, quite a few times people have. Said, Yes I am.

DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah. And then what would you recommend you do when somebody actually acknowledges they are contemplating suicide? Yeah,

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: the first thing is, you know, not being afraid of asking that question. Sometimes people think, Oh, that's a bit personal, or I shouldn't ask that. You could save someone's life by asking that.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: So never be afraid to ask even if you feel a bit uncomfortable. And then the big thing is if someone says they're suicidal or they have an active plan, stay with them and get them some help. If you're not sure where to take someone, a GP is a really good place to take someone. Hopefully you can see a GP much faster than you can see a counselor.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: So taking them to a GP or if it's a significant issue the emergency department at a hospital would basically stay with the person. And get them some help. And then once they've got more help, then you can leave them alone after

DANNY : DE HEK: that. So you don't just tell them a few jokes and tell them to cheer up and change their diet.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: No. If someone's got the point of suicide, there's a good reason why they've got there. So always take it seriously and also remember what they've told you may not be the full story. So it may sound to you like they're getting upset over something really small, but there could be a big part of the story that you don't know.

DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah, no, it's good stuff. And I've literally probably said that to well over 10 people anyway. And I've never had someone tell me off for asking that very question. In fact, they're actually quite pleased that I've actually showed an interest in them taking the time out to actually be insured of enough to actually notice that something's not right.

DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah,

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: yeah. And even if you do offend them, it doesn't. You know, someone's life is more important than whether they're offended or not. So even if you do offend the person, doesn't matter. Saving their life is more important,

DANNY : DE HEK: right? And is it true that no one's ever died of embarrassment? Why is that wrong?

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: Don't think so.

DANNY : DE HEK: No. But yeah, so that's cool. All right, so the reason why I wanted you to come on is because I've been getting involved. You know, busting these Ponzi schemes. And I've started interviewing quite a few people that have lost a lot of money. And two of the people that I have actually asked, I've employed that question, Do they feel suicidal?

DANNY : DE HEK: And I've actually said, yes, I have had suicidal thoughts and I, because I'm doing it over Zoom and there are in other countries, I feel like I'm a little bit help. And also, you know, staying in touch with everyone is quite hard work. So I thought I'd bring you on because a lot of people, what I've noticed, have been hot.

DANNY : DE HEK: They don't want to come on Zoom and they don't wanna broadcast for the world. They're embarrassed, they've lost their money and all different other reasons. So I thought if people are watching this video and they have lost their money and they are feeling really low, then I'd like to be able to give them some advice, or I want you to give them some advice of things they could practically do and maybe the mentality behind people that get involved in these get rich quick opportunities.

DANNY : DE HEK: Because money is a, is a thing that we all strive after. And when we have it taken away from us in a hurry it can obviously get those thoughts working negative.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: Yeah, should we start with that perhaps that I think a lot of people don't realize that, say, losing a large sum of money that could make someone suicidal.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: I think a lot of people think that someone will only contemplate suicide after a long history of depression. Maybe they've had depression for five or 10 years and a lot of people are really surprised to learn that. Suddenly losing a lot of money can be a trigger for suicidal thoughts. But many people have seen the film.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: It's a wonderful. It's about a man that owns a loan company and then one day he loses in today's money what's the equivalent of a hundred thousand dollars, and he thinks about suicide. And in the morning he was perfectly fine. He was perfectly happy. He had a lot to live for. And then suddenly when he was faced with such an overwhelming loss, he thought about suicide.

MICHAEL HEMPSEED: And that doesn't just happen in movies as you've said, and I've experienced too with many people, suddenly losing a lot of money, unfortunately, can trigger suicidal thoughts in people. So we need to be aware that this is a risk factor.

DANNY : DE HEK: Hmm. One, the patent there I've noticed of, these people who they have Zoom meetings, and I've literally been in these Zoom meetings where they have nearly just under 2000 people in these Zoom meetings, and they're getting preached due by the people who are running the Zoom meetings.

DANNY : DE HEK: And there's a community that's all staged. And they come on. And it's kind of like these people that are new in here, they think, Oh, I'm part of a community, you know? And they're sort of pushed or coached. Getting involved with these things. So not only do they just, they realize they've been scammed. They also, the community that they're a part of, doesn't want anything to do with them.

DANNY : DE HEK: When they realize that they've lost their money and they ditched them, so they lose not just money, they lose the community unity. .

MICHAEL

https://www.dehek.com/general/ponzi-scheme-scamalerts/are-you-a-hypernation-ponzi-scheme-victim-contemplating-suicide-understanding-preventing-suicide/